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141. 3 Billion "Paradise" Bond [OPEN] - in Market Discussions [original thread]
David Forge wrote: Even taking into account that my honor was being called into question the whole time, I did enjoy that. Please don't think I was implying anything untoward myself. Purely exploring hypotheticals. Quote: Honestly,...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 19:59:00
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142. 3 Billion "Paradise" Bond [OPEN] - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Magnu Stormhawk wrote: A 6 day bond or a typo? Edit: I see your other bonds were also short, so probably not a typo. Seems to me you are paying a high rate for a short term, unless you are pro-rating the interest. Why so short? If you can get ...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 19:10:00
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143. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Cont. When I talk about carrying out a 'risk assessment' I mean taking the following into account: Quote: 1. Get as much basic information as possible to build a risk profile. This in no way provides solid protection as people can certainly...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 17:02:00
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144. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Nick BlueStar wrote: What a good read. Going back to what Florestan and Kara were talking about earlier, how can you make the proper risk assessment? There are no third party ratings agencies nor government watchdogs like in real life. No cred...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 17:00:00
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145. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Darth Tickles wrote: You guys are right. We shouldn't use our knowledge and experience to help others avoid pitfalls...not without getting paid anyway. I've learned a valuable lesson here today. Helping someone and manipulating them are two...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 14:06:00
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146. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Liberty Eternal wrote: I agree with a lot of what you post but not this. All kara/RAW has shown is that the system can be worked ethically and profitably by those intelligent enough to do so, which is a good thing. Now, does that make him resp...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 14:02:00
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147. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Darth Tickles wrote: I guess I'm just not as ruthless and self-serving as you. I know this is supposed to be a harsh game...I guess I'm just weak like that. Freedom is a harsh mistress. Fake edit I was going to say 'Liberty is a harsh mis...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 13:48:00
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148. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Darth Tickles wrote: However, as long as you and a handful of others continue to promote this false image of orderliness that anyone can hop right in to, I'll keep pounding my equally oversimplified objections to it. If anyone chooses to rea...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 13:25:00
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149. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Florestan Bronstein wrote: I cannot know what business deals you make in private - but from what I have observed on MD my impression is that you make a financial profit by following the principles I laid out above. Ah. Ok, that was my ini...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 11:57:00
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150. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Jake Andarius wrote: I actually agree with a lot of his skepticism. I just think that characterizing investors as "trying [to] sucker more fresh meat in to feed the scammers" is a bit harsh. Don't take this particular claim too seriously....
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 10:48:00
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151. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Florestan Bronstein wrote: Cut out all the high finance crap which only gives a false illusion of accountability and professionalism. Call a spade a spade and a personal loan a personal loan - don't call it a bond, a share issue or a securiti...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.23 10:04:00
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152. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Darth Tickles wrote: roleplaying/fun Anyone who talks about how much money they make as an "investor" is just trying sucker more fresh meat in to feed the scammers because they know how to game the system and get out before the scammers pull t...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.22 21:54:00
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153. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Nick BlueStar wrote: Tekota wrote: said insightful words. Thanks Tekota, very helpful. for Kara: But then why are there still SO MANY scams out there, if the barrier to successful scam entry is so high? It almost seems like some peopl...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.22 19:54:00
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154. Why Accept Bonds/Give Loans? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Nick BlueStar wrote: I mean, it's all fine and dandy to act like this is the real world and you need X money to start up a company and make Y money. But on Eve, we aren't held accountable like we are in the real world. Our credit isn't destroy...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.22 19:18:00
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155. Requesting 150m loan - I ended up bankrupt - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Darth Tickles wrote: I guess IF you play Eve to "have fun" and "meet people", then that's reasonable. However, if you play Eve to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women, which is the way it s...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.21 17:52:00
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156. 1% profit/month glass ceiling ? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
TornSoul wrote: Would you care to elaborate on that 100B 100% business plan - Just a little bit. At that "low" capital amount I'd understand not wanting to give away the whole thing. But just the general gist of it (so that others can evalua...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.20 20:46:00
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157. 1% profit/month glass ceiling ? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
TornSoul wrote: OK - So just for score keeping. One guy - 10T aka 100B profit is what you say could be done with your scheme? Yeah, one guy could manage that. But let's add your Titan BPC farm as well, as that could be run concurrently by t...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.20 19:49:00
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158. 1% profit/month glass ceiling ? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
TornSoul wrote: I would consider that within the "rules of the challenge". I don't like the "labour intensive and boring" bit though... Considering part of the challenge would be to have to do it for years. If you think that your Joe average ...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.20 19:12:00
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159. 1% profit/month glass ceiling ? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Another way of thinking about it is to ask what is the maximum isk (not %) return you could get from running all time-viable business and then work out how much you could have doing nothing before the total return falls under 1%. So, time is going...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.20 19:01:00
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160. 1% profit/month glass ceiling ? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
This might be cheating somewhat but I could get 10%+ returns a month out of a trillion isk. How: 1) Take 100bil and run a business plan that returns 100% per month (labour intensive and boring but I have done it in the past). 2) Leave the other...
- by Kara Roideater - at 2012.03.20 18:54:00
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